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Friday, March 2, 2012

On When we Know Where we Come From

Very few people, royalty excepted, can trace their ancestors uninterruptedly for centuries. I can. The Paim name you see in the adress bar of this blog goes back to at least a thousand years to a place called Bedford, in England, where our first (?) ancestor originated.

The Paim - Paine- Payne - Payn name comes from Latin Paganus = Pagan. From "Paganus" to the vernacular Paean, Pean, you got the drift... to Paine.

We Paims, erm, Paines, Paynes, Payns, Pagans go back to one Thomas Allen Paine (Payn), born circa 1355, who left England in 1387 to accompany Phillippa of Lancaster, sister of Henry IV, who was to marry king John I of Portugal.

Thomas Allen Paine became "Chomaly" Paim in Portugal and had two sons: Valentine and Robert. Valentine who later married Brites de Vasconcellos, was then our first Paim. From him, to the Azores, to Brazil, and in Brazil, to the states of Rio de Janeiro, Bahia, and Rio Grande do Sul whose branch i derive

Our great...-uncle Robert was none other than that very translator of John Gower's Confessio Amantis - or Tales of the Seven Deadly Sins who, as a Canon of Lisbon, was unmarried. Juan de Cuenca did his Spanish translation based on my g...-uncle's translation into Portuguese.

So what, you say, I go back 200 thousand years to one African "Eve". Well, i'm just looking into my genealogy, that's all.

Now with a name like that, make way, for the Paines, Payns, Paeens, Paims are a-coming!


  1. Mauro, on both sides of my family tree we can go back pretty far. Both sets of my grandparents did the genealogy work in the nineteen eighties. I don't think I can back back quite as far as you can but pretty close. It is nice to know where your roots are. Makes it easier to nourish the historical legacy or trim parts, if need be. With my family trimming is in order.

  2. "Or trim parts", precisely, Kyle. Thanks for your comment. Pity i cannot do the African part; it's lost in the mists of time. Maybe the science of Genetics or paleo-anthropology will do it for me.


  3. Mauro, I am also a descendant of Thomas Paine. I traced my lineage back to him and am currently looking for his ancestors. Based on my research, I have reason to believe that Thomas Paine is actually Thomas de Montagu (Montague or Montacute). This Thomas also had a brother named Robert and both timelines match up. Montagu's family can be traced to the Payns and to Filipa de Lencastre (on her mother's side).